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Thoughts on                                             degree. Thirty years in college teaching has shown a degree is
                                                                easily initiated at an institution based on the attraction of the de-
                                                                gree name among the inexperienced youth rather than the needs
        Professional Practice                                   of society or demands of the society.

        and Education                                           I am not going to discuss how to obtain two or more licenses
                                                                in detail since state law often governs the ease or difficulty of
                                                                such endeavors. I believe two or more licenses is best obtained
                                                                while young with grand plans or while old and unfulfilled dreams
        By: Knud E. Hermansen, P.L.S., P.E., Ph.D., Esq.        (bucket list), or frustrated with just one license. I make this state-
        Part 9: Multiple Discipline Licenses and Certifications  ment because the work and effort required for the second license
                                                                is not always commiserate with employment, family, and other
        This is the ninth article I have prepared in the series offering   commitments that the typical life of a middle age married adult
        thoughts on professional practice and education. In this article,   with children will allow.
        I discuss multiple discipline licenses ance certifications. Con-
        trary to many of my other articles, I doubt there are opposing   I should note that often one license can be obtained with just an
        sides that wish to argue or advocate for or against what I write.   undergraduate degree in surveying and a second license obtained
                                                                with a graduate school degree in another field. Such is the case
        Though I suppose there will always be one or two readers that
        may wish to dispute what I have written.                when obtaining a law degree.
        I use the term ‘license’ and the term ‘certificate’ to indicate sepa-  Certificates are easier to obtain as they seldom require a specific
        rate and distinct achievements. As I will use these terms in this   degree, though wetlands specialist is often an exception requir-
                                                                ing a degree focused on soil science, biology, or botany. Most
        article, a license is an authorization to practice that is governed
        by a separate government board. Various state laws require a   certificates are gained by experience and testing or in a few
        person have this authorization in order to provide some defined   cases, just testing. Information for obtaining certifications is
        service to the public.                                  readily available on the internet. Experience has shown that
                                                                many certifications are gained by happenstances where services
        A certificate, on the other hand, is generally an accomplishment   are performed in the area leading the practitioner to conclude
        used to indicate some special knowledge, achievement, or skill   the next step toward certification is easily taken or they wish to
        set of the certificate holder. Many certifications are controlled   focus on providing certain services where a certification makes it
        by private or government organizations that have taken it upon   more likely they will be contracted for the services.
        themselves to exert knowledge or skilled based dominion over
        some special body of knowledge or skill. The necessity of having   I would encourage surveyors to seek licenses or certifications in
        the certificate to provide a service is usually governed by private   fields or services they enjoy or wish to pursue. I would encourage
        contract, local law, or agency regulation rather than state statute   young people about to embark on the path to a surveying career
                                                                to examine their options and to make the most of their college
        or mandatory regulation.                                experience. I suspect I am not the only person that wishes they
        What I mean by multiple licenses or certifications is that the   had deviated somewhat in youthful pursuits to make the most of
        licensed surveyor is also licensed or certified in some other   a professional career.
        profession, specialty, practice, or trade. For example, in addition   † Other books and articles by Knud can be found at https://
        to my surveying license, I also hold licenses as a professional
        engineer and attorney at law.                           umaine.edu/svt/faculty/hermansen-articles/
        I don’t think multiple discipline licenses or certificates are always
        necessary. I do think other professional licenses and certifica-
        tions can be helpful and profitable especially if connected to
        land surveying services. I would estimate that half the licensed
        surveyors that have practiced for ten or more years hold other
        professional licenses or certificates along with their survey
        ors in conjunction with their survey license include: professional  YOUR AD
        license. I think a vast majority find their licenses and certificates
        useful and profitable. After all, if not useful or profitable, licenses
        and certificates can be dropped or relinquished.
        Some of the most common licenses that are held by land survey-

        engineer, forester, landscape architect, attorney, realtor, and    HERE!
        septic system designer.
        Certifications are more numerous and widespread among sur-
        veyors. Certifications that are popular among licensed surveyors
        include: photogrammetrist, wetlands specialist, notary, OSHA,
        federal surveyor, project manager, floodplain manager, drone
        operator, and hydrographer, to name a few. The term ‘certification’
        is often attached to the name of the specialty, the entirety ab-
        breviated, and placed after the surveyor license such as a certified        Due Dates:
        floodplain manager (CFM) or certified federal surveyor (CFedS).  January 25th, April 25th, July 25th, October 25th
        Additional licenses are not easy to obtain and often require   To submit and article or to request information regarding
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        extra college courses, additional degrees, experience, and test-
        ing. Though there are exceptions to this statement such as the            NALS Executive Office
        licensed real estate agent (realtor). I am unaware of any state            T. (888) 994-3510
        that offers a realtor degree though I would not be surprised to        E. nals@nvlandsurveyors.org
        be informed of some university program that does offer such a

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