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Thoughts On                                            The surveyor must hold a license in the state in which services are
                                                               offered or performed.
        Professional Practice                                  I would also caution that in many states holding a valid survey li-
                                                               cense to practice in the state is not sufficient. The person must also
        and Education                                          hold a certificate of authorization (COA) or similar business license
                                                               or work for a firm that does hold a certificate of authorization in the
                                                               state. I have seen many disciplinary citations issued to out-of-state
        By: Knud E. Hermansen, PLS, PE, Ph.D, Esq.             firms that incorrectly believed that they could provide services in
                                                               a state by simply having an employee of that firm licensed in the
        Article 6: Licensing With and Without A degree         state. I would also caution that the out-of-state firm must often
                                                               pay income taxes to the state and in some case the municipality
        This is a follow-up to Article No. 4 & 5 published in the    in which they performed their services and received payment. A
        Traverse Edition 50.3)                                 most frustrating time in my past was when a municipality in a state
                                                               I was not a resident demanded I pay an income tax on a small fee
        This is the sixth article I have prepared in the series offering   I received for services completed in that municipality. Had I been
        thoughts on professional practice and education. In this article, I   aware, I would have refused the services or doubled my fee to cover
        wish to review survey licensing requirements. I have noted that   the frustration and time to do the extensive paperwork involved in
        a graduate of a surveying course of study will likely seek multiple   paying a municipal income tax.
        state survey licenses. More practitioners seek multiple state licens-
        ing than when I started my surveying practice. It is common for   I would also like to dispel some misconceptions that surveying
        four-year surveying graduates to be licensed in two or more states.   must be thought of as a ‘lesser’ profession or not a profession at
        I know of one individual licensed in more than a dozen states. As I   all because individuals can be licensed without formal education
        look back on fifty years of surveying practice, over that time, I have   in the professional field. I suppose some judges or legislatures
        held licenses to practice surveying in six states.     feel and have ruled otherwise. Their position allows them to have
        While the reader is probably aware of their state licensing require-  an opinion that establishes the definition in that state. It is a fact
        ments, a review of licensing requirements nationwide is appropri-  of life that an opinion of a person in power means more than an
        ate. Requirements for licensure among states vary.     opinion of some other person.
        More than 25% of states require some formal education in order to   The fact is there are other professions that surveyors work along-
        be licensed. Not all of these states require a surveying or geomat-  side that permit licensure without a formal education. As I write
        ics degree. The most stringent academic requirement found for   this article, Washington, Vermont, California and Virginia allow an
        licensure exist in states that require a surveying or geomatics   individual to become a member of the bar without graduation from
        degree from an ABET accredited program.  Some states relax this   a law school. Wyoming, New York and Maine allow individuals to be
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        standard slightly by not mandating an ABET accredited surveying   members of the bar without a juris doctorate (J.D.) degree so long as
        or geomatics degree. Relaxing academic restrictions even more,   the individual has at least some law school courses.
        some states accept any four-year degree with a certain number   Not all states require an engineering degree to become a profes-
        of surveying credits. Next in academic laxity is a state allowing   sional engineer (P.E.). Some state permit engineering experience
        any four-year degree without specific surveying credits. Some   alone to qualify for licensure.
        states will permit a two-year surveying or geomatics degree
        with a certain number of surveying courses. Finally, a number of   I am sure that some individuals reading this article will wonder what
        states continue to allow licensing by experience only. Two-years   my opinion is regarding a requirement for formal education in order
        of experience is a minimum requirement coupled with education.   to obtain a survey licensure. I have five degrees and taught in a four-
        The norm for experience among states appears to be four-years   year surveying program for more than thirty years. My background
        of experience coupled with education. More experience is required   would suggest I am a strong advocate for a degree requirement. Yet
        when there is less formal education.                   surprisingly, I am not in favor of mandating education in order to be-
        It stands to reason that a person wishing to pursue licensure as   come licensed. My first surveying licensure was obtained based on
        a surveyor with the widest possible opportunity for employment   my surveying experience alone. There is no question that I learned
        and licensure in the United States should meet the most stringent   more about surveying by obtaining my B.S. degree. I also learned a
        state requirement for licensure. The person casting a wide net for   lot more about surveying when obtaining my M.S. degree followed
        employment or licensing should obtain an ABET accredited four-  by my Ph.D., and, lastly, my law degree. The fact that I learned more
        year surveying or geomatics degree. There are several universities   about surveying upon attaining each degree, doesn’t mean each
        in the United States and foreign countries with excellent programs   degree should be required for licensing.
        that are ABET accredited. Some offer accredited surveying degrees   My opinion is that an individual that passes the fundamentals of
        entirely through distance education. Individuals can achieve an   surveying exam, professional surveying exam, and state specific
        ABET accredited degree without leaving their state.    exam has the knowledge necessary to competently practice survey-
        This wide diversity of pathways allowing surveying licensure reveals   ing. Competent practice demands a minimum level of knowledge
        differing opinions nationwide and within state societies as to what   - not retention of all knowledge possible. A degree will instill the
        should be the requirements for licensure in a state. The issue has   information in less time, with a better understanding, and with
        been firmly settled in some states. It is a source of great debate in   more extensive knowledge. Yet, an intelligent individual, through
        others. This article is not intended to create controversy in states   self-study, and extensive experience can also gain the minimum
        that has had the controversy and has settled the requirements.   level of knowledge for competent practice. I believe the important
        A person that does not have a degree or possesses a degree not   point is whether the individual has the knowledge, not the way the
                                                               knowledge was acquired. Some of the best surveyors I have ever
        accepted in a state of their residency or employment can always   met or followed had no formal education or a two year degree only.
        seek licensure in another state should they wish to show profes-
        sional achievement. Of course, I must stress that a person working   1  A search portal that provides ABET accredited surveying programs can be
        in one state holding a survey license in another state cannot nec-  found at https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search?disciplines=69&di
        essarily provide surveying services in the state where they work.   sciplines=67


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